Episodes

Sunday Aug 30, 2020
Sunday Aug 30, 2020
How Big is your Faith??? Really, how big is it??
Join host, Tom Bump and his guest Aaron Ziebarth the Director of Joy El Ministries
Aaron and his team had the choice, do we shut down summer camp because of Covid19 or do we develop strategies and plans to find a way to make it happen so children and youth can hear the gospel?
What's at risk if we don't open? You will want to hear this story of great faith in action!!!

Sunday Aug 23, 2020
Sunday Aug 23, 2020
Part 2 of our Crucial Conversation:
This week the KMC tackles a very difficult and sometimes controversial topic. Through questions and conversation with Caleb Kaltenbach (Author of Messy Grace) we discuss what the Bible says about homosexuality, dealing with same sex attraction, parenting through LGBTQ+ topics and more.
Connect with Caleb
https://www.facebook.com/calebwilds/
https://www.calebkaltenbach.com/
https://www.messygracegroup.org/
Messy Grace on Amazon - https://amzn.to/3fvzjhm

Sunday Aug 16, 2020
Sunday Aug 16, 2020
This week the KMC tackles a very difficult and sometimes controversial topic. Through questions and conversation with Caleb Kaltenbach (Author of Messy Grace) we discuss what the Bible says about homosexuality, dealing with same sex attraction, parenting through LGBTQ+ topics and more.
Connect with Caleb
https://www.facebook.com/calebwilds/
https://www.calebkaltenbach.com/
https://www.messygracegroup.org/
Messy Grace on Amazon - https://amzn.to/3fvzjhm

Sunday Aug 09, 2020
Sunday Aug 09, 2020
Join Host's Tom Bump and Ron Brooks for this episode where we learn from two great leaders.
Has your church closed its doors and considering reopening? You will find this conversation helpful. Join Host's Tom Bump and Ron Brooks for this episode where we learn from, Ben Christensen and David Reneau, two great kidmin leaders who recently reopened. Find out how they planned, what they did, and how it worked (or didn’t work).
Connect with either of them here:
David’s blogpost- https://davidreneau.blogspot.com/2020/08/4-things-i-learned-from-relaunching.html?m=1&fbclid=IwAR0XQo4bGvPQLYyNCEdqCiazCp_159S25vtjxThYxMKODNiTRs1Q9tnDmVU
@davidreneau twitter/insta
David E Reneau FB
Davidreneau,blogspot.com
david@churchofhope.com
Ben Christensen FB
ben@connectionchurch.info

Monday Aug 03, 2020
Kids Ministry Collective #117 BRITE days ahead for KIDMIN Discipleship
Monday Aug 03, 2020
Monday Aug 03, 2020
Join Tom Bump as he reviews a brand new curriculum called BRITE its from AWANA and its Fantastic!!
You should check out this amazing disciple-making powerhouse!
https://britecurriculum.com

Tuesday Jul 28, 2020
Kids Ministry Collective 116 GRAPES for Kids and Bread for Leaders with Tom Bump
Tuesday Jul 28, 2020
Tuesday Jul 28, 2020
Tom gets to share some GRAPES today from a great blog post by Ron Brooks www.pastorronbrooks.com
https://pastorronbrooks.com/6-things-kids-need-from-your-kids-ministry/
Check out his course: https://pastorronbrooks.com/how-to-write-a-childrens-ministry-lesson/
If you need to talk to someone or need some ministry help: www.kmccoach.net

Sunday Jul 19, 2020
KMC #115 - Leadership Lessons, And Growing Together with Ricardo Miller
Sunday Jul 19, 2020
Sunday Jul 19, 2020
Leadership, Lessons, And Growing Together
Today's episode my friend Richardo Miller joins me. He is an author, innovator, motivator, and speaker who is also a Kids pastor. He has some fantastic wisdom to share with us today.
- You love helping leaders grow, why is that?
- I love following Jesus- Jesus built his team and developed them.
- Develop Leaders, NOT just helpers!
- Develop yourself after the pattern of Jesus
- As you look back over your years of ministry what would you have liked to have known then what you know now?
- The title doesn’ mean you have to know everything.
- Be comfortable in who you are: Find people who can do things you can do and let them do it better.
- Embrace others strengths.
- Don’t hold the ministry hostage because you can’t or aren’t good at something.
- What has God been teaching you about leadership lately in the midst of Covid19
- You are Not alone.
- When the student is ready, the teacher will appear. Get ready.
- Someone is succeeding where you are failing, lean into others! Reach out to others.
- Tell us about how your church is doing ministry during Covid19
- Evaluate everything
- Develop new strategies
- Be open to change
- It's changing, ready, or not.
- Don’t stay the same, Innovation always follows a crisis. What can come from this?
- Consider this:
- The VHS lasted for something like 20years
- The DVD lasted for something like 10years
- The Blue Ray lasted for something like 5 years
- Now Streaming is killing it all.
- What can be the “Streaming” in the children’s ministry world?
- Don’t just force the same things into a new platform
- Don’t play it safe.
- With all the racial tension in the world, how do you handle it as a person of color?
- Lead with Grace and Love
- Live with the peace that God brings and give it to others freely.
- Be slow to be offended
Follow Richardo Miller Online:
https://www.facebook.com/EffectiveLivingWithRicardoMiller/
https://www.youtube.com/c/EffectiveLivingwithRicardoMiller/featured

Sunday Jul 12, 2020
KIds Ministry Collective #114 Crucial Transitions- Tom Bump
Sunday Jul 12, 2020
Sunday Jul 12, 2020
Today I want to share some crucial transitions we need to have in order to help our children's ministry face today's challenges. Where we choose to go now will impact the future in so many ways. If we aren't bold enough to face them, what will the price be for that?
I hope this is a blessing to you and encourages you to step boldly.
If KMC can be of service head over to www.kmccoach.net to set up a time to talk
Or join in the conversation in the Kids Ministry Collective Facebook Group!

Monday Jun 29, 2020
KMC#113- Covid19 Fatigue, SummerTime and What Can I do to Launch?
Monday Jun 29, 2020
Monday Jun 29, 2020
Join Tom Bump as he shares some practical tips for how to overcome Covid Fatigue. He also shares some ideas for making Summertime super for you, kids, and your volunteer team. He wraps up this edition with thinking of some simple tips to help you prepare for relaunching in a healthy way.
If you need help, reach out at www.kmccoach.net for a free 30 min call!

Sunday Jun 21, 2020
Kids Ministry Collective #112 Unleashing Your Inner Kidmin - Ben Fowlkes
Sunday Jun 21, 2020
Sunday Jun 21, 2020
Join Tom Bump and his guest, Ben Folwkes- This was recorded during a "White Board Wednesday session on the KMC Facebook Group:
If you struggle with creativity, Ben share's some great ideas on how to stir it up again and find it.
There are 5 ways I go about channeling the inner kid and every time without fail creativity seems to follow…
- Where a kid can be a kid - ToysRus
- Press the Big Red Button - Jetsons
- Know your hood. - Mister Rogers
- Break down the walls - Kool Aid Man
- Be a little Curious - Mr. Bean
What happens when we grow up and become less like a child:
See the Big H’s - Hurt, Hardship, Hate, Headaches, and the Hesitations of Life
Lose the Fun
Book Suggestions:
Purple Cow- Seth Godin
Creative Inc- Ed Cattmill

Sunday Jun 14, 2020
Kids Ministry Collective #111 When Life Gives You Lemons Gerald Fadayomi
Sunday Jun 14, 2020
Sunday Jun 14, 2020
We had the honor of talking to Gerald Fadayomi about his newest book, When Life Gives You Lemons.
In the conversation, Gerald talks to us about some of the challenges he has faced in his life that has caused him to question “Why?”
Gerald also talks about adversity, which all of us face. Listen to him talk to us about things we are in control of in our lives and things that are out of our control. Learn what he means when he says “Acknowledge the sour, see the potential, and ask the right questions.”
Check out the interview, and be sure to grab the book! When Life Gives You Lemons on Amazon
Connect with Gerald:
https://twitter.com/GeraldFadayomi
https://www.geraldfadayomi.com/lemons
Thanks to BOLT VBS For your sponsorship of this episode of the KMC Podcast

Tuesday Jun 02, 2020
KMC #110- Bridging the Racial Divide- Mahogany Dudley-Finley & Pastor Eric Hamp
Tuesday Jun 02, 2020
Tuesday Jun 02, 2020
I want to welcome to this episode Mahogany Dudley-Finley, who serves with the International Network of Children's Ministry and Pastor Eric Hamp, Senior Pastor at Faith Family Christian Center Church.
I am grateful for both of you joining me on short notice but I have followed both of you on social media and felt that you’d be the right ones to reach out to as I was praying how I could help respond to our country's crisis right now. I would love to have a conversation focused on a couple of things:
What do we as white leaders need to understand about racism?
What can we as ministry leaders do to help bring change?
What can we do to serve our brothers and sisters who are grieving so deeply right now?
Where does the church and specifically kidmin go from here? What can we do to make real change happen?
Let’s hit some of the questions that I mentioned at the top of this episode:
What do we as white leaders need to understand about racism?
- Inform yourself- As leaders, we need to do the hard work and get the right info.
- Call it what it is, SIN. Racism is SIN, period.
- Do we as leaders believe it is sinful to think one is superior over the other?
- Make sure we as leaders are not passing on stereotypes or ideas that encourage this type of thinking.
What can we as ministry leaders do to help bring change?
We need to get comfortable having uncomfortable conversations. We need to embrace them.
Allow the Holy Spirit to step in and finish the sentences we are unable to finish.
What can we do to serve our brothers and sisters who are grieving so deeply right now?
Ask the questions but don’t put the burden of education on the person of color. We must seek to understand and listen carefully.
Be fully present for our brothers and sisters.
Dig In! - Do the hard work
Do the next right thing
Follow the Spirit’s lead.
Where do the church and specifically kidmin go from here? What can we do to make real change happen?
- Examine ourselves first.
- Take a heart inventory
- Ask, “what are we convinced of?”
- Do we see people as image-bearers?
- Go on a Journey of Learning
- Embrace the uncomfortable questions
- Engage in learning and listening.
- Figure out how to speak truth
- What conversations need to happen?
- Hard change will not happen if you and I aren’t willing to change.
- Be willing to step out and take a risk.
- Be intentional about serving.
- Make sure everyone is represented. Help make other races visible even if your group isn’t diverse naturally.
What resources could you point leaders to?
Check out Be the Bridge https://bethebridge.com
International Network of Children's Ministry https://incm.org

Monday May 25, 2020
Monday May 25, 2020
Our guest today is Chris Sykes. We met him because he was asking some creative questions about what worship experiences and vbs could look like for the whole family. Chris is a Lead Pastor as The Church At Lake Forest in Walls, Mississippi. (https://tcalf.com/)
Chris also caught our attention with an impromptu Facebook live video talking direct to lead pastors concerning kids ministry, family services, and reopening the church. You can see the video on his facebook page here. (https://www.facebook.com/pastorcsykes/videos/10157064658987385/)
During our conversation, you will here Chris address both kidmin leaders and lead pastors since he comes from a kidmin background, but he has transitioned to a lead pastor now. Much of the conversation will help lead pastors consider their kidmin when they reopen. Chris also talked to the kidmin leader about what their lead pastor is likely facing right now.
Thank you to this episodes sponsor: Bolt VBS
Use code KMC40 and receive $40 off
Ron Brooks Blog- www.pastorronbrooks.com
Tom Bump's Blog- www.ptbump.com

Sunday May 17, 2020
KMC #108 Special OC20 Recap Edition
Sunday May 17, 2020
Sunday May 17, 2020
Join Tom Bump, Steve Cullum and David Maddron as they do a virtual round table discussion about Orange Conference 2020.
This year Orange did a major pivot and took a huge risk by hosting the Orange Conference all online. It was an amazing experience and I think you'll enjoy the discussion!
Steve Cullum's Podcast- https://www.thestudentministrypodcast.com
David Maddron's Podcast- https://kidsmintalk.com/podcast

Sunday May 10, 2020
Sunday May 10, 2020
Join KMC hosts, Tom and Ron as they spend about 35 minutes with Greg discussing what Kid’s Ministry looks like as church’s begin to reopen after the quarantine brought on by the COVID-19 Pandemic.
Greg Atkinson is the Founder of Worship Impressions and the First Impressions Conference. Greg is an author, leadership coach, consultant, and member of the Forbes Coaching Council. Greg has worked with churches of all stages and sizes, including some of the largest and fastest-growing churches in the country, as well as with businesses, non-profits, and organizations such as Josh McDowell Ministries. Stay connected to Greg and his work here: https://linktr.ee/gregatkinson
Some of the discussion points you will hear:
- Is your Kid’s Ministry clean, safe, and secure?
- What are some questions church leaders need to ask themselves when considering opening the church building?
- What will ‘First Impressions’ look like for Kid’s Ministry once churches reopen?
- What is something we need to get right the first time as we reopen?
- What is the future of the check-in process?
- What is the recommended capacity once we reopen?
- All this and more as Greg shares lots of great wisdom throughout the conversation.
Check out Greg’s 10 questions you can ask your congregation as you get close to reopening, as well as a list of great resources to help you make decisions as you get closer to opening your church doors.
If you're church needs help or you're a Senior Pastor who would like some help making messages Kid friendly let us know we are here to help you.
Tom Bump's Contact info:
Ron Brooks Contact info:

Sunday May 03, 2020
KMC#106 Pandemic Guide For Ministry Leaders Kim Botto
Sunday May 03, 2020
Sunday May 03, 2020
Join host Tom Bump, and his guest Kim Botto as they discuss some great principles that every leader needs to keep in mind while we minister during this pandemic.
You will love Kim and the wisdom that she shares!
Her article called Pandemic Guide for Leaders
Check out the other resources for Kidmin Leaders

Sunday Apr 26, 2020
KMC #105 Outside the Box during Covid-19
Sunday Apr 26, 2020
Sunday Apr 26, 2020
Join Tom Bump and his guest, Jared Massey as they discuss some outside the box thinking during Covid-19. Ministry during challenging times can either make you panic or bring out the best. Jared has some great ideas for churches to think outside the box (aka the building) I know you will be blessed by it.
jaredm@warsawag.org If you'd like to chat with Jared!

Sunday Apr 19, 2020
KMC #104 What Comes Out of Crisis?? - Tom Bump
Sunday Apr 19, 2020
Sunday Apr 19, 2020
Join Tom Bump as he shares some observation and challenge about what comes out of Crisis? If you're a leader feeling the Covid19 Overload, this message will bring you some hope and encouragement!
I'd love to know what have you learned and how/where have you grown the most?

Saturday Apr 11, 2020
Kids Ministry Collective #103 ONE Thing You Can't Miss in Kidmin- David Rausch
Saturday Apr 11, 2020
Saturday Apr 11, 2020
Join Tom Bump and his guest, David Rausch the founder of Mooblio which produced GO! Curriculum
David and Tom discuss the ONE Thing we can't get wrong, especially during this pandemic. This was a timely discussion and one you will really enjoy!
I also highly recommend you check out Go! Curriculum too. It is amazing and they have completely rebooted it to help any church during these challenging times!

Sunday Apr 05, 2020
KMC#102 Ministry to Special Needs during Covid-19
Sunday Apr 05, 2020
Sunday Apr 05, 2020
Join host Tom Bump and his guests from Key Ministry, Beth Golik and Catherine Boyle as they help us understand how to minister to families with children who have special needs and other hidden challenges. Anxiety is so high already for these families the Church can step up and help. This is such a great conversation and I highly recommend you check them out on Facebook or online.
They have a bunch of fantastic resources.
